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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
-Television came to Libya in 1958 when the [[Armed Forces Networks|American Armed Forces]] at [[wikipedia:Wheelus Air Base|Wheelus Base (WAB)]] established its own NTSC station in Tripoli; this was one of the first television stations established within the greater Arab world.
+Television came to Libya in 1958 when the [[Armed Forces Network|American Armed Forces]] at [[wikipedia:Wheelus Air Base|Wheelus Base (WAB)]] established its own NTSC station in Tripoli; this was one of the first television stations established within the greater Arab world.
 But only those wealthy enough to own a television could view the transmissions coming from the base and the very weak signals from [[Italy]] and [[Tunisia]].

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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
-Television came to Libya in 1958 when the American [[wikipedia:Wheelus Air Base|Wheelus Base (WAB)]] established its own NTSC station in Tripoli; this was one of the first television stations established within the greater Arab world.
+Television came to Libya in 1958 when the [[Armed Forces Networks|American Armed Forces]] at [[wikipedia:Wheelus Air Base|Wheelus Base (WAB)]] established its own NTSC station in Tripoli; this was one of the first television stations established within the greater Arab world.
 But only those wealthy enough to own a television could view the transmissions coming from the base and the very weak signals from [[Italy]] and [[Tunisia]].

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 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-[[Morocco]] was the previous [[Arabic]]-speaking country in [[:Category:Africa|Africa]] to screen the series so it's possible that Libya was supplied with the same set of prints. Alternatively, the prints were supplied from a Middle Eastern country – [[Saudi Arabia]] or [[Jordan]]? - or even from television distributors in [[Lebanon]], where most Arabic dubs were recorded, or directly from the BBC.
+[[Morocco]] was the previous [[Arabic]]-speaking country in [[:Category:Africa|Africa]] to screen the series so it's possible that Libya was supplied with the same set of prints. Alternatively, the prints were supplied from a Middle Eastern country – [[Saudi Arabia]] or [[Jordan]].
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 ====Fate of the Prints?====
-The next African/[[Arabic]] country to air '''Doctor Who''' was neighbouring [[Algeria]], in 1973/74. It is therefore possible that Libya sent its prints of the [[Arabic]] dubbed Hartnell stories to [[Algeria]] (which was the last ever country to purchase that package of 37 dubbed episodes).
+The films may have been destroyed during the September Revolution.

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 The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' and on dates that tie in with when the series was "sold" to Libya is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no serialised British or American television drama series or serials with either of those two titles...
-(According to ''Halliwell's Television Companion'', '''Crisis''' was the "international title" of the US anthology series '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope_Presents_the_Chrysler_Theatre Bob Hope's Chrysler Theatre]''', which ran from 1963 to 1967, and indeed, that was the title under which it aired in New Zealand from 1965, although the alternative title is not mentioned on the series' Wikipedia or IMBD listing.) However, each episode of the anthology was 50 minutes long, but the Libya TV listing is for only 40 minutes. ''Halliwell's'' has no mention of a series/serial by the title of '''The Long Journey''' - so the jury is still out…)
+(According to ''Halliwell's Television Companion'', '''Crisis''' was the "international title" of the US anthology series '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope_Presents_the_Chrysler_Theatre Bob Hope's Chrysler Theatre]''', which ran from 1963 to 1967, and indeed, that was the title under which it aired in New Zealand from 1965, although the alternative title is not mentioned on the series' Wikipedia or IMDB listing.) However, each episode of the anthology was 50 minutes long, but the Libya TV listing is for only 40 minutes. ''Halliwell's'' has no mention of a series/serial by the title of '''The Long Journey''' - so the jury is still out…)
 The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything'''.

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 The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' and on dates that tie in with when the series was "sold" to Libya is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no serialised British or American television drama series or serials with either of those two titles...
-(According to ''Halliwell's Television Companion'', '''Crisis''' was the "international title" of the US anthology series '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope_Presents_the_Chrysler_Theatre Bob Hope's Chrysler Theatre]''', which ran from 1963 to 1967, and indeed, that was the title under which it aired in New Zealand from 1966, although the alternative title is not mentioned on the series' Wikipedia or IMBD listing.) However, each episode of the anthology was 50 minutes long, but the Libya TV listing is for only 40 minutes. ''Halliwell's'' has no mention of a series/serial by the title of '''The Long Journey''' - so the jury is still out…)
+(According to ''Halliwell's Television Companion'', '''Crisis''' was the "international title" of the US anthology series '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope_Presents_the_Chrysler_Theatre Bob Hope's Chrysler Theatre]''', which ran from 1963 to 1967, and indeed, that was the title under which it aired in New Zealand from 1965, although the alternative title is not mentioned on the series' Wikipedia or IMBD listing.) However, each episode of the anthology was 50 minutes long, but the Libya TV listing is for only 40 minutes. ''Halliwell's'' has no mention of a series/serial by the title of '''The Long Journey''' - so the jury is still out…)
 The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything'''.

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	The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' and on dates that tie in with when the series was "sold" to Libya is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no serialised British or American television drama series or serials with either of those two titles...		The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' and on dates that tie in with when the series was "sold" to Libya is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no serialised British or American television drama series or serials with either of those two titles...
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		+	(According to ''Halliwell's Television Companion'', '''Crisis''' was the "international title" of the US anthology series '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope_Presents_the_Chrysler_Theatre Bob Hope's Chrysler Theatre]''', which ran from 1963 to 1967, and indeed, that was the title under which it aired in New Zealand from 1966, although the alternative title is not mentioned on the series' Wikipedia or IMBD listing.) However, each episode of the anthology was 50 minutes long, but the Libya TV listing is for only 40 minutes. ''Halliwell's'' has no mention of a series/serial by the title of '''The Long Journey''' - so the jury is still out…)

	The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything'''.		The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything'''.

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 The second of the two [[Peter Cushing]] Dalek movies screened at the '''Al Metropol''' theatre in Tripoli from '''12 to 20 January 1969'''. Dubbed into Italian as '''"DALEKS – Il Futuro tra un Milione di Anni"''', it also screened with Arabic subtitles ("sottotitoli in arabo").
-The text '''"LONDRA DISTRUTTA DAI DISCHI VOLANTI" translates as "LONDON DESTROYED BY FLYING SAUCERS".
+The text '''"LONDRA DISTRUTTA DAI DISCHI VOLANTI"''' translates as '''"LONDON DESTROYED BY FLYING SAUCERS"'''.
 Session times were 3.30pm, 5.15pm, 7.00pm, 8.45pm and 10.30pm.
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 ==Transmission==
-[[File:LibicaTV.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"For Children", 7.30pm, Thursdays; February 1970]]
+[[File:Libya1970.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"Serial: The Long Journey", 9.30pm, Tuesday / "Serial: Crisis", 8pm, Wednesday; March/April 1970 – are these for Doctor Who?]]
-[[File:Libya1970.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"Serial: The Long Journey", 9.30pm / "Serial: Crisis", 8pm; March 1970 – are these for Doctor Who?]]
+[[File:LibicaTV.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"For Children", 7.30pm, Thursdays; March/April 1970]]
 We are unsure when the series started; with television broadcasts and newspaper publication disrupted during the September Revolution, it has not been easy to research the country's broadcast history.
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 However, as noted below, there is a possibility that the series aired from late '''December 1969''' through to '''April 1970''', playing twice a week (on Tuesdays and Wednesdays) - the 3-part serial [[Planet of Giants]] may have aired in '''March 1970'''.
-If the two (very much open to interpretation!) billings of Tuesday, '''17 March''' and Wednesday, '''18 March 1970''' (see below) are indeed for '''Doctor Who''', and the series aired regularly in that twice a week slot, then the first episode could have aired '''10 December 1969''', and the 37th and final on '''9 April 1970'''. A December 1969 start certainly ties in with the "December 1969" sales date recorded in BBC sales paperwork.
+If the two (very much open to interpretation!) duplicated billings (see below) are indeed for '''Doctor Who''', and the series aired regularly in that twice a week slot, and the run did conclude '''15 April 1970''', then the first episode could have aired '''10 December 1969'''. A December 1969 start certainly ties in with the "December 1969" sales date recorded in BBC sales paperwork.
-But if only the billing for '''"Crisis"''' is for '''Doctor Who''', the series may have recommenced from the point at which it had stopped prior to the Revolution; [[Planet of Giants]] may have been the first serial to air once television broadcasts had resumed.
+But if it's only the Wednesday billing that is '''Doctor Who''', and the series aired only once per week, the series may have recommenced from the point at which it had stopped prior to the Revolution; [[Planet of Giants]] may even have been the first serial to air once television broadcasts had resumed.
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 We also viewed random issues of the Arabic paper ''Al-Thawrah'', those available from November 1969 to January 1972, but TV listings were infrequent – particularly in 1970 and the first half of 1971 - and the few that were published in late 1971 did not appear to include '''Doctor Who'''.
-A few issues of the Italian-language newspaper, ''Il Giornale de Tripoli'', did have TV listings for '''TV Libica''' / '''Televisione Libia''' during July and August 1969 (prior to the Revolution). TV listings resumed in the 16 February 1970 issue, but only some of the subsequent papers had full listings.
+A few issues of the Italian-language newspaper, ''Il Giornale de Tripoli'', did have TV listings for '''TV Libica''' / '''Televisione Libia''' during July and August 1969 (prior to the Revolution). TV listings resumed in the 16 February 1970 issue, but only some of the subsequent papers had full daily listings for the Libyan TV channel.
-The last copy held was for 14 March 1970, which included listings for that full week, 14 to 20 March.
+The Saturday editions of that paper also printed the upcoming full week's television; only four of the available Saturday papers in March and April contained such listings for Libyan TV:
-Interestingly, this single paper did have three listings that might have been '''Doctor Who''':
+* 14 March 1970, which included listings for that full week, 14 to 20 March
-* Tuesday, 17 March 1970: '''"Serial: The Long Journey"''', 21.30 to 21.45
+However, due to a printing error, the TV listings for the first three of these weeks were duplicated, with identical text and layout. All three have these exact same listings:
-The names given for the two Serials are very similar to the episode titles of parts two and three of [[Planet of Giants]]. (The title for episode two is "Dangerous Journey", which became "A Dangerous Adventure" in its Arabic translation, which '''could''' have become "Long Journey" in its translation by Italians back into English.)
+* Tuesday (17 March, 7 April, 14 April): '''"Serial <<The long Journey>>"''', 21.30 to 21.45
-There is no clear certainty that these two listings '''are''' for '''Doctor Who''' – sadly no other papers with full week's listings were available prior to or after this.
+The titles given to the two Serials are very similar to the episode titles of parts two and three of [[Planet of Giants]]. (The title for episode two is "Dangerous Journey", which became "A Dangerous Adventure" in its Arabic translation, which '''could''' have become "Long Journey" in its translation by Italians back into English.)
-The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no British or American television series or serials with either of those two titles...
+The coincidence of there being two "Serials" airing on consecutive days with titles that are a close match to two consecutive episodes of '''Doctor Who''' and on dates that tie in with when the series was "sold" to Libya is hard to ignore! And as far as we can tell, there are no serialised British or American television drama series or serials with either of those two titles...
-The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything''', so without access to other papers from this period, we can only assume that '''Doctor Who''' did air in Libya at some point...
+The other listing, '''"For Children"''' on the Thursday could be for '''anything'''.
 ====Fate of the Prints?====
-The next African/[[Arabic]] country to air '''Doctor Who''' was neighbouring [[Algeria]], in 1973/74. It is therefore possible that Libya sent its prints of the [[Arabic]] dubbed Hartnell stories to [[Algeria]] (which was the last ever country to purchase that package of 37 episodes).
+The next African/[[Arabic]] country to air '''Doctor Who''' was neighbouring [[Algeria]], in 1973/74. It is therefore possible that Libya sent its prints of the [[Arabic]] dubbed Hartnell stories to [[Algeria]] (which was the last ever country to purchase that package of 37 dubbed episodes).

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 Libya did not establish its own television service until the final week of 1968 when the '''Libyan Broadcasting & TV Service''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster, began transmitting on 24 December 1968.
-All television broadcasts were disrupted following the 1 September 1969 Libyan revolution led by Muammar al-Gaddafi.
+All television broadcasts were disrupted following the 1 September 1969 Libyan Revolution led by Muammar al-Gaddafi.
 Regular television broadcasts recommenced by February 1970. Wheelus Base was vacated in June 1970.
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 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-[[Morocco]] was the previous [[Arabic]]-speaking country in [[:Category:Africa|Africa]] to screen the series so it's possible that Libya was supplied with the same set of prints. Alternatively, the prints were supplied from a Middle Eastern country – [[Saudi Arabia]] or [[Jordan]]? - or even from television distributors in [[Lebanon]], where most Arabic dubs were recorded, or from the BBC direct.
+[[Morocco]] was the previous [[Arabic]]-speaking country in [[:Category:Africa|Africa]] to screen the series so it's possible that Libya was supplied with the same set of prints. Alternatively, the prints were supplied from a Middle Eastern country – [[Saudi Arabia]] or [[Jordan]]? - or even from television distributors in [[Lebanon]], where most Arabic dubs were recorded, or directly from the BBC.
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 :''"I lived in Tripoli from May 1969 as a ten year old; my father had a job out there. I loved all the programmes that have since become cult TV. I can recall three TV channels. One showed American TV shows, such as '''Garrisons Guerillas''', '''Branded''', '''Lost in Space''', etc [*], [and] the others always showed [local content]. The old king favoured the West, but once the regime change looked like taking place [in September 1969], from a cultural point of view anything western was unwelcome. At no time do I recall any '''Dr Who''' being shown on Libyan TV or on the Forces channel."''
-[*] This would be Wheelus AFB; in fact '''Lost in Space''' is part of the line-up in the 1968 example we have illustrated here.
+:[*] This would be Wheelus AFB; in fact '''Lost in Space''' is part of the line-up in the 1968 example we have illustrated here.
 Taking Paul's comments into account, it is possible that '''Doctor Who''' aired from late 1968 – soon after TV services commenced – through until early 1969, maybe even completing its run prior to May 1969. 37 episodes playing once a week would end in September, but a run playing five nights a week would have concluded in mid-February.
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 However, as noted below, there is a possibility that the series aired from late '''December 1969''' through to '''April 1970''', playing twice a week (on Tuesdays and Wednesdays) - the 3-part serial [[Planet of Giants]] may have aired in '''March 1970'''.
-If the two (very much open to interpretation!) billings of Tuesday, '''17 March''' and Wednesday, '''18 March 1970''' (see below) are indeed for '''Doctor Who''', and the series aired regularly in that twice a week slot, then the first episode could have aired '''10 December 1969''', and the 37th and final on '''9 April 1970'''.
+If the two (very much open to interpretation!) billings of Tuesday, '''17 March''' and Wednesday, '''18 March 1970''' (see below) are indeed for '''Doctor Who''', and the series aired regularly in that twice a week slot, then the first episode could have aired '''10 December 1969''', and the 37th and final on '''9 April 1970'''. A December 1969 start certainly ties in with the "December 1969" sales date recorded in BBC sales paperwork.
 But if only the billing for '''"Crisis"''' is for '''Doctor Who''', the series may have recommenced from the point at which it had stopped prior to the Revolution; [[Planet of Giants]] may have been the first serial to air once television broadcasts had resumed.
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 A few issues of the Italian-language newspaper, ''Il Giornale de Tripoi'', did have TV listings for '''TV Libica''' / '''Televisione Libia''' during July and August 1969 (prior to the Revolution). TV listings resumed in the 16 February 1970 issue, but only some of the subsequent papers had full listings.
-The last copy held was for the week of 14 to 20 March 1970, which included listings for that full week.
+The last copy held was for 14 March 1970, which included listings for that full week, 14 to 20 March.
 Interestingly, this single paper did have three listings that might have been '''Doctor Who''':